Extreme is slow for web and Youtube & iPlayer

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Re: Extreme is slow for web and Youtube & iPlayer

Postby Charlie » April 9th, 2012, 4:17 pm

rsocon wrote:The first thing I did when I received my Scroll Extreme was remove the Task Killer.

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I did the same with the Excel, and would do the same with the Extreme (if I had one) - IMHO - there is not really a need for a task killer to run on auto on Android. - Still useful to have to use manually very occasionally, when you really need to kill an app, to restart it for debugging, modding reasons etc.
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Re: Extreme is slow for web and Youtube & iPlayer

Postby wantefc » April 9th, 2012, 5:43 pm

Im sending mine back tomorrow to get a replacement due to buzzing sound...so for future reference..how do u stop task killer permanently..
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Re: Extreme is slow for web and Youtube & iPlayer

Postby Charlie » April 9th, 2012, 8:26 pm

wantefc wrote:Im sending mine back tomorrow to get a replacement due to buzzing sound...so for future reference..how do u stop task killer permanently..


Well, it depends, normally you just un-install it (use a free app from play shop, is an easy way) if the app is installed as a user one. My guess is that on the Extreme (I don't have one BTW) they have it as a system app (like on the Excel - which I have) So to remove that kind of app you need to root the device 1st, AFAIK the Extreme is not rooted out-of-the-box, unlike the Excel.

Hope that helps a bit.
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Re: Extreme is slow for web and Youtube & iPlayer

Postby justb » April 10th, 2012, 8:04 am

Have you tried the opera browser??

If that is slow then you definately have a problem....

And where you using the built in task killer, or using a task killer program?

Task killer programs cause more harm than good, and cause all sorts of instabilities.
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Re: Extreme is slow for web and Youtube & iPlayer

Postby ricky712 » April 10th, 2012, 8:51 am

Build No 03F2-P1-H2-M01-1796.20120321
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Re: Extreme is slow for web and Youtube & iPlayer

Postby awilson3000 » April 10th, 2012, 5:18 pm

Mine is also build 03F2-P1-H2-M01-1796.20120321 ... browsing, typing, video all seem more than fine..

Have watched HQ video in youtube app, http://www.channel4.com/programmes/4od & http://www.channel5.com/demand5 via the browser. If websites think you are using a mobile/ipad, then go into browser settings and check 'request desktop site'. BBC iplayer on the web seems to insist on taking me a 'large screen' version of the site.. which then does not want to play.. although I am yet to try the tips from elsewhere on the forum..

Sounds like @airside has either a dodgy unit or something odd going on.. @airside have you tried another wifi or the unit in airplane mode?
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Re: Extreme is slow for web and Youtube & iPlayer

Postby awilson3000 » April 10th, 2012, 10:30 pm

Oopps! Browser>Settings>Debug>Browser mode> ....was set to 'iPad'..?!. have now set to 'Android'.

Iplayer now working really well from the browser :D

Worked this out from reading this link... thanks guys!
viewtopic.php?f=57&t=2258&start=50

ITV player working from app- installed manually from http://www.apktops.com/itv-player-1-0-0.html

As above - all working - 4od via web, Demand5 via web, YouTube via app or web!
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Re: Extreme is slow for web and Youtube & iPlayer

Postby Mitre » April 10th, 2012, 11:14 pm

@awilson
Got one of these bad boys for my sons birthday- what a lucky lad he is!
have you let him play with his present yet :lol:
WHAT DO WE WANT?
A TIME MACHINE!
WHEN DO WE WANT IT?
IT DOESN'T MATTER
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Re: Extreme is slow for web and Youtube & iPlayer

Postby dickmorrell » April 11th, 2012, 5:37 am

Okay the issue with iPlayer and Youtube is linked to crap broadband QoS. Before anyone screams at me remember I am the author of 200m internet firewalls and former Head of Broadband Dev at NTL and an Android developer. The Extreme has a lot going for it but its handshaking with G/N wifi networks is very 2006. It cannot use N speeds eg my iPad I can get 56Mbps wireless on my 207Mbps home fibre broadband downstream. My Extreme connects to same switch at 11Mbps.

So you'd assume that's a true speed but then you have the immature ICS stack underneath which throttles the connection. So if you have a cruddy sub 8Mbps broadband connection via a domestic router especially if its one of the pieces of crap from Virgin or BT that I designed the firmware for and you're NAT'ing devices behind it you're going to get crap contention speeds. I am probably glib given I can test here on a constant 200Mbps± feed downstream but the underlying ICS stack and lack of N negotiation handicaps the Extreme.

Before you all scream outrage, the Extreme still outperforms HTC, Motorola, Asus and Archos higher price Android tablets. How do I know ? Ive got them here in the lab..... its not an iPad it doesn't claim to be either.
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Re: Extreme is slow for web and Youtube & iPlayer

Postby cantisque » April 11th, 2012, 6:38 am

Seems odd, I'm on 40Mb connection and my Extreme seemed to be using all the available bandwidth. I'll have to give Speedtest a run when I get it back.
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